New Map of Beirut Plus Southern Suburbs Negates Claims of Mass Destruction

We've gotten a few emails from astute readers who say that our previous Beirut map was limited to the Beirut city limits. This is true. At the same time they claim the southern suburbs have been "decimated" by the Israelis. This map and supplemental information compiled by highly astute authorities on the issue negates those claims.

Comments

[mick in the UK]

There must be some mistake on the map.
The BBC reckons Beirut has been levelled.

[DaBeeeenster]

These maps are laughable.

- You provide no source for the "information" they contain
- You provide no further evidence to validate the "information"
- Your previous map labelled a sea port as having "transport runways" where no runways exist (unless they have been removed since google maps photographed the area). This map coincidentally includes the runway. Which one is it?
- Based on the area of the airport that is shown as having been hit, only 1 runway was taken out of action. Countless news reports, many containing video, testify that the entire airport was taken out of action. Are you saying that only 1 runway was hit?
- Again, countless media reports, many containing eye witness accounts, indicate that the lighthouse was targetted and hit, but this is not shown in your map.

I'd be interested in hearing your response to these questions.

[Asmodeane]

Uh, if the entire airport was "taken out of action" then how the hell did the aid flights get in today?

[DaBeeeenster]

Erm, maybe because they fixed the runway as mentioned in many, many news articles?

[gbaikie]

"Erm, maybe because they fixed the runway as mentioned in many, many news articles?"

How do you fix a completely destroyed airport so quickly?

[moflicky]

How do you fix a completely destroyed airport so quickly?

they bombed the runways to prevent flights.

they didn't "completely destroy the airport".

why do you ask such dumb questions?

[Papa Ray]

Media reports? Don't you people know who controls the Media? It is the Jews. The Jews...NO!wait, I thought it was Bushhitler...maybe he is a closet Jew?

Naw, that is just going too far.

Papa Ray
West Texas
USA

[Sidtara]

Some people here and at LGF are objecting to this map (aerial photo) because its provenance is unclear.

BBC online has a map (not aerial photo) showing the damage "according to the Lebanese Ministry of Social Affairs." It also enumerates the IAF targets at the bottom. (5000 private residsences, 1 Lighthouse, 1 Bottle factory, etc.) It also shows only one runway hit at the internatonal airport south of Beirut. (Obviously when one runway is hit NO flights will be coming in and out PERIOD, unless the IAF agrees.)

To find it, go to BBC online and search for "Lebanon damage report."

While the damage looks "expensive" I wouldn't call it "extensive." It certainly doesn't support the hysterical assertions that Beirut has been leveled. And the BBC is hardly a right-wing outfit. Nor is the Lebanese Ministry of Social Affairs.

It would be interesting to see the BBC "damage map" overlapped with this aerial photo, wherever it comes from.

Where DOES it come from, anyway?

[Exposing Israeli Aggression]

O brilliant Israeli propagandist how I admire thee.

Here is a better map of the whole of Lebanon.
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6998/196/1600/lebanon%20map%20July%2012-25.jpg

[DaBeeeenster]

What is truly defining about the people who are extolling this map as "proof" of what is going on in Lebanon is the way they are taking the totally unverified piece of "evidence" and preaching it as the truth.

How on earth can you even construct a map like this? The only way you could do so is to sweep the entire area on the map, which is many many square miles, and note where there was evidence of munitions hitting the area. I very much doubt that this has happened. If it had the source has to be attributed to the map. The fact that this blog has refused to provide evidence of how the information was collated is further proof that it is total propaganda being swallowed down by those ignorant enough to want to believe it.

Goebbels would be so proud.

[Rob]

VP, I think we need to know more about who produced these maps. If they're accurate, they're pretty telling -- but if defenders of Israel (like me) are to use them convincingly, we've got to know a bit more about where and who they emanated from.

The map shows 1 small part of 1 runway having been hit, yet in the copy to the left describes how "Israel targeted the airport runways". Note the plural of runways.

The map is junk.

[guinsPen]

Beirut Runway Damage @ DigitalGlobe

[Vital Perspective]

This map was not produced by a news agency or anything of the sort. It was produced by professional colleagues of ours who are extremely personally familiar with the region and have superb researching skills and contacts. We stake our reputation on it. Those who have been with us for some time know that we've never led them off the right path.

The satellite image is clearly marked as having come from Google Maps. In order to keep it at a managable size, the scaling and locations of the targets are approximate. Again, this is clearly marked. As to the airport runways comment above, multiple runways were hit. The mark is on the airport. Each mark does not equal one targeting or one aerial attack, it signifies a location, which could be targeted multiple times.

[DaBeeeenster]

So basically you aren't going to answer the question, are you?

Who compiled the data for the maps?
What sources did they make use of?
How was the information corroborated?

I'm assuming that the people compiling this information are actually in Beirut?

Maybe you would also like to address my other questions regarding the 'runways' in the first map that do not exist?

[Andrew James]

To those idiots who question the accuracy of the map I say I don't need a map.

A friend of mine is station in Beirut as a journalist and he confirms what the map says. When I spoke to him yesterday, he was sunning himself by the hotel pool drinking a gin and tonic rather than sinking in concrete rubble as the Arab propaganda machine would seek to have us believe.

Furthermore, I don't need the map because every night when I tune in to the BBC World News I see vision of the BBC's own presenter standing in front of an untouched central Beirut. And the BBC can hardly be said to favour the Israeli version of things in the Middle East.

[Yackums]

DaBeeeeeeeenster wrote:

What is truly defining about the people who are extolling this map as "proof" of what is going on in Lebanon is the way they are taking the totally unverified piece of "evidence" and preaching it as the truth.

Substitute "video clips shown on news reports" for "map" and look in the mirror.

[DaBeeeenster]

Yackums,

I think you need to learn the difference between first and second hand accounts.

[Joanne]

Personally I am sick and tired of everything being swayed towards Israel. Does EVERYONE forget how they took the land from the Palestians? And then they didnt even pay them for their farms or vineyards? I personally think everyone is BRAINWASHED. What I see, is once again, Israel is showing it's TRUE colors. They are the blackball group. They take and take and give nothing back to anyone. And I dont think they are the TRUE jews. Ask the hasidic jews.

[4Israel]

First of all Joanne, the land that you claim was "taken" from the Palestinians, does not even belong to the Palestinians. Land is occupied if taken in war from a sovereign state and clearly there has never been a sovereign state in the West Bank or Gaza Strip, therefore the land is disputed territory which can only be resolved through peaceful negotiations. Israel has offered the Palestinians a state in return for peace which the Palestinians rejected on a number of occasions indicating their desire not for peace but for their ultimate goal which is the annihilation of Israel.
Secondly, the land in the west bank and Gaza strip has actually had more infrastructure developed since Israel gained control of the land in 1967. Universities, schools, hospitals etc have been created for the benefit of the Palestinian people.
Your baseless claim of Israel not giving and just taking is quite evidently rubbish due to the fact that Israel gave the entire Sinai desert back to Egypt for peace which had a number of oil fields worth billions of dollars for Israel as well as giving back numerous areas of land for peace with Jordan. So i advise you to take a history book, open it and actually read the facts before making baseless, ridiculous and provocative claims. It seems that you have been brainwashed

[DS]

Regarding the Lebanon map posted by IsraelAggression...why does it say "Occupied Palestine" south of Lebanon?

[Pat]

Stupid people claiming to be wise, that's how i see these folks who talk against the Jews. Guess birds of the same feathers fly together.
Stupid arabs never won any war against the Jews, check your history if you want to verify. So stupid begets stupid

[Pat]

Stupid people claiming to be wise, that's how i see these folks who talk against the Jews. Guess birds of the same feathers fly together.
Stupid arabs never won any war against the Jews, check your history if you want to verify. So stupid begets stupid

[karlos]

A close look at Israel's actions throughout the past 60 years show a consistent pattern. They have made their border areas unihabitable by anyone but hardened militants. The IDF then moves in to "keep the peace" and eventually, when the rest of us have forgotten the original incursion, the territory is absorbed into Israel by way of "settlement".

Israel has increased it's landholding from 50% to 78% of greater Palestine in this way since Partition.